Friday, December 18, 2009

Blog #6 Industrial Revolution Due 1/6/10

Analyze and discuss 1-2 forms of protest agaisnt the Industrial Revolution and working conditions. (discuss how successful it was and if their actions were justifiable or should they have utilized an alternative method)

Remember to respond to the question in 6-8 sentences (yes it can be longer) and to respond to two of your classmates answers in 4-6 sentences. Do not just agree or disagree without defending or justifying your argument.) NOTE: YOU CANNOT SAY "I AGREE WITH JOE AND BOB AND WRITE ONE RESPONSE. IT MUST BE TWO SEPARATE RESPONSES WITH TWO DIFFERENT EXAMPLES TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU SAY. Think above and beyond the common answers that you may see. Be sure to challenge your classmates with controversial tactics, actions or selections. Good Luck!!!! Go Mustangs!!!

51 comments:

Cindy said...

The Industrial Revolution was a movement that occurred simultaneously with the French Revolution. Starting in Britain, it rapidly urbanized England as new discoveries were made. Even though the Industrial Revolution provided new opportunities for economic growth, there were protests against working conditions and the new social order that was emerging. The Luddites is an example of protests against the Industrial Revolution. Luddites attacked factories, broke machinery, and believed that they were loosing jobs. They were British textile artisans who protested against the new wide-framed automated looms that produced more and required less laborers, thus taking away their jobs. The Luddites weren't very successful because the Industrial Revolution eventually raged on and continued to develop regardless of protests. Their from of protest was violent and did not achieve anything substantial. Because of this, I think they should have found another way to negotiate.
Another form of protest against the Industrial Revolution working conditions was the Factory Act of 1833. It limited the hours per day of work and prohibited children under the age of nine to work. This greatly helped because these children didn't have to work with dangerous machinery that were usually bigger than them. It also provided more family time which helped develop the concept of family to society.

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Anonymous said...

During the Industrial Revolution, a time when industrialism developed rapidly in Great Britain compared to the rest of Europe, workers became concerned with child laborers. The parents of these children were no longer exercising discipline in the factories. After this, the English Factory Act of 1833 was established forbiding children younger than nine years old to be employed. Children nine to thirteen were only allowed to work nine hours a day and the factory owner had to pay for two hours of schooling a day. This act was very successful because it also led to Parliament's decision of making work days ten hours long. This even made reformers think that the working place for a women would be in the home instead of in a factory or mine.

Unknown said...

Many years ago,there was a time period of great advancements in all aspects of life, especially in technology. This time period was called the Industrial Revolution.
During the Industrial revolution, there was a huge growth in population. As the population grew, the supply and demand grew with it. As the supply and demand grows, they require more goods to satisfy those needs. To create more goods, they needed a more efficient and faster way of creating goods. The idea of wanting a more efficient and faster way to produce goods allowed machines such as the water Ginny to be created.

Although the Industrial revolution had a lot of benefits to it, some people did not agree with it. Some notable examples were the The Chartists.

Chartists were people who wanted the 'People's Charter' to be accepted. The people's Charter was basically a document that lists all the reforms that the middle class and ordinary class to be accepted by the government.

Another example is the Swing Riots. The Swing riots was basically farm laborers that finally wanted change. These farm laborers have faced many issues with the machines and the enclosure movement. These 2 categories sums up what the Farmers did not want. They disliked the idea that only a small amount of workers were needed. As a result of the machines and the Enclosure movement, many farmers were unemployed.


I agree with Cindy how violence did not solve much. It did not even stem the fast growth of the Industrial Revolution. i agree how it "did not achieve anything substantial."

I also agree with Ian on how the English Factory Act of 1833 was effective. i also agree with him on that women's felt their work place was like another "home".

lizbethhhh said...

The Industrial Revolution was a time when there were a lot of dramatic changes where manufacturing,agriculture,mining,and transportand began in great britain.
one of the examples would be the luddites.
the luddites would be unemployed because they couldnt compete with the machines that would only require relatively limited and unskilled labour that would produce cloth than one weaver. they also decided to fo towards the machines that took their jobs and begin destroying the factories and the machinery.they just felt that the changes that were produced in the industrial revolution had threatened their livelihood.
another thing is that women and children were also manipulated since they were looked as being weak.also, the pollution increased,where the working conditions started to become more dangerousand the capitalists employed the women and the young children which made them work for a long time and for difficult hours
the factory act of 1833 which was an act that established a regular working day in the textile industry was meant for the children. like children under the age of 18 could not work at night. and children at the at the age of 9-13 had to have 2 hours of education everyday and could not work more than 8 hours with an hour lunch break. this act helped the women and children limit their hours of work and have more time to be spend with their family.

ceenguyen said...

The Industrial Revolution was a time of dramatic change, especially in agriculture, and technology. It started in the French Revolution, and made it's way to Britain. The Industrial Revolution had benefited in many ways, there technology grew tremendously, from the spinning jenny to the cotton gin. With all the benefits, there was also a more of less protest. Starting with the Luddites, and how they protested the Industrial Revolution, and they were thinking that they're jobs were being cut, and attacked most of the machinery. I believe that the children were getting more attention on child labor, and how the Factory Act of 1833 limited hours per day; and prohibited children under the age of 9. Also the Mines Act of 1842 prohibited all children under the age of 10 from working underground.
The cause of the Industrial Revolution made population increase dramatically and the increase in population would be a great thing, because that allowed more goods to come in very quickly, and more fresh goods, with the high population, more people presumed that it would be a more efficient way to invent a machines like the water frame. During the Industrial Revolution mercantilism was being more recognized, likewise, the Price Revolution had a big inflation.

I agree with Richard and how he said "he Swing riots was basically farm laborers that finally wanted change." The Chartists did not want anything to be the same, they wanted a whole drastic change.

I also agree with Lizbethhhh and how she mentioned about how women and children were being looked upon as weak. Women and Children were being saw upon as just people that can not fulfill duties that an older or men can do, and with that, the Factory Act of 1833 was made.

lizbethhhh said...

2 responses:
#1:
i agree with richard that during that industrial revolution there were a lot of growth especially in technology. duting the time, they were finding new inventions such as the steam engine which is the heat engine that had mechanical work done by using the steam as a working fluid. also i agree with him that of course not everybody would be accepting these changes such as the chartists which they wanted there to be a huge change on how their "people charter" to be accepted.

#2
i also agree with ceenguyen that the factory act of 1833 was taken out because of the working hours that were being held by the women and children. a gave them more free time and limited their hours so that way they did not have to work as much.and also i agree on what she said about Mines Act of 1842 which forbade the women to work underground because of the large amount of deaths that occured and morale. and also because the women would take off their shirts like the men to cool off which would expose the looks of the men from the communities. and also the children would have to see the women like that. the older children would turn out to be sexually active due to the fact that both boys and girls would be together in their work and the lack of clothing that was being held by the heat of the mine.

amandazac'12 said...

The Industrial Revolution was a time period in which evolving protests led to greater revolution and the advancement of laws concerning rights of humanity. The IR was a foreground for many alternative ways of economic growth.
The first protest was of working conditions in factories, mainly dealing with women and children; most commonly known as the Factory Acts of 1833. These acts put restrictions on the amount of hours children could work in a day. Children worked long hours in factories with little education and inhumane surroundings. Ususally factories were the common carrier and provider of many fatal diseases. The Factory Acts provided a safer environment for women and children, however it did not in any way alter their pay scale. Women and children were hired for cheap labor wage and it was unfair, however it was considered reputable for employers. These acts also provided two hours of education for a child every day he or she worked. I think this protest was in fact successful.
Unlike The Factory Acts, the Luddites were not considered successful. The Luddites were British textile artisans. They protested the use of textile looms, because the looms created a higher supply and demand as well as took away many labor jobs. Looms were efficent in that they did over twice that a single man could produce in the same amount of given time. This group was extremely abrassive and violent. They attacked factories and destructed machinery, therefore being to vulgar in their movement, earning no support.

RESPONSES:

-Cindy: I completely agree with Cindy. I think she was correct in saying that the Luddites were too intense and violent to actually make reforms. In order to gain support you must not use violent alternatives to push people. I also think that the Factory Acts were indeed successful because they promoted education and a stable family life within a home.

-Lizabethhhh: For the most part I fully support lizabeth's statements, however I somewhat disagree when she says that women and children were looked as as being weak. Perhaps she is correct, but I think women and children must have been seen as notable enough to earn the right to work. Indeed they were minipulated, because they were cheap labor. But employers put women in the same jobs men were doing. So if they were so weak how could a male employer stand to put a female employee doing the same physical labor as a man? Women and children were honored to work most likey. This was one of the first times recorded in history women had professional, commercial jobs, outside of the home. Women and kids had to either take their pay, or leave it. Plain and simple, they could not refute or reform because of their social stigmas. But they were not weak individuals, or seen as unfit workers, in my opinion.

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cheyenne b. said...

The Industrial Revolution was a period of dramatic change that was first developed in Great Britain. It may have been an oppurtunity for new growth, there was still protests against working conditions. The concern for child labor was on the rise during the IR. With the English Factory Act of 1833, it forbade the employment of any child under the age of nine. This act also limited the hours of in a workday for children aged nine to thirteen to work nine hours a day. Another protest of the Industrial Revolution, was after the Factory Act when British workers demanded shorter workdays for the adults. This was effective because in 1847, Parliament mandated a ten-hour workday, which allowed parents and children more hours to spend time with each other as a domestic unit.

I agree with CINDY when she says that the Factory Act provided more family time for the children. With shorter hours, it helped families come together as a domestic unit. It helped the domestic unit, since it had ceased up until that time. It also helped the family unit flourish.

I disagree with LIZBETH when she says that women and children were lookd to as weak. They were looked down upon but were notable enough to work, but not as weak. Women and children were used for cheap labor, because they were seen as notable, not weak. In my opinion, i found them being cheated by employers for cheap labor.

adesuyo said...
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adesuyo said...

The Industrial Revolution was a movement that held tense changes. Beginning in Britain, the Industrial Revolution rapidly spread throughout England. The movement generated many opportunities for a growing economy, but with the new working conditions, many protests arose against it. Protestors called the Chartists are an example of protestors against the Industrial Revolution. The Chartists demanded universal male suffrage, annual election of the House of Commons, the secret ballot, equal electoral districts, and the abolition of salaries to members of the House of Commons. These six points were presented to Parliament in a Charter and was not passed. The Chartists presented a petition containing a million signatures to the House of Commons, called strikes, and even published a newspaper entitled The Northern Star. Although the Chartist were active, Chartism failed nationally. Their actions were justifiable and were not all violent. Their active actions eventually paid off and lead to the passing of some of the Six Points later on. Another example of a protest against the Industrial Revolution was the Factory Act of 1833, which mainly dealt with women and children. This Act established regular working days and prohibited children under the age of nine to work. The Factory Act of 1833 allowed women and children the opportunity more time to spend with their family.

Responses:
1. I agree with Cindy that the violent actions of the Luddites did not help them. They should have found a different and more assertive way to protest and negotiate. I also agree that the Factory Act of 1833 provided more family time. With the work hours being limited per day, families do not have to spend their entire day working.

2. I agree with Lizbethhh on her statement about women and children considered weak. Women and children were hired a paid less then men were simply because, I think, they thought they were easier to manipulate than men. They also worked longer hours, but still were paid less.

Ian Taylor said...

Response:

1)Richard was correct when he stated the Chartists did not agree with the industrial revolution. The Charists were radical artisans that were frustrated with their social and economic expectations. The London Working Men's Association (Charist group formed by William Lovett) demanded six specific reforms, in 1838, which were the Six Points of Charter.

2)I also agree with Lizbethhhh about the Luddites being unemployed because they were unable to compete with the machines. The Luddites were against the wide-framed automated looms because the looms didnt require as many laborers and they didnt need to be payed.

nartanna said...

During the Industrial Revolution, there were many protest against the harsh working conditions. The factory work lost a lot of personal freedom for the workers, and the children were put to work at very young ages that exclude them from learning and playing. There were two protest that were put into the public to help the factory workers. One was the Saddler Commission and the two Acts during the period of 1833 to 1842. The Saddler Commission intrude to investigate the working conditions to improve the environment for the workers. The two Acts were Factory Act of 1833 and Mines Act of 1842. The Factory Act limited the hours per day to help working family have more quality time together. Factory Act, like the Mines Act, prohibited all children from working under the age of 9 for factory and 10 for mines. Those were the protest accomplished to help the working conditions during the Industrial Revolution.

nartanna said...

I agree with Cindy that the Factory Act did improve the lifestyle of the young children during the Industrial Revolution. The machines were young in production therefore it put the children working there in great danger if they can not aware. Having time out of work, children will allowed to be influence with education. Besides that act, the children who were over the age of 9 were later allowed to have 2 hours of education on the job. Factories did try to compromise with the protests.

nartanna said...

I also agree with Ian that the English Factory Act was successful. However, I believe it was just a small compromise of the factory owners. It almost seemed like a trade-off to keep these children working from them longer. At some extend it was a win-win situation for the children and factory owners. The children get paid very little but get education, while the factory owner keep making the same amount of money from hiring more children at a low rate of payment. The English Factory Act was a sneaky tactic of the factory owner during the revolution.

Jessica Silva said...
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Jessica Silva said...

Analyze and discuss 1-2 forms of protest agaisnt the Industrial Revolution and working conditions. (discuss how successful it was and if their actions were justifiable or should they have utilized an alternative method)

One form of protest against the industrial revolution concerned artisans who saw their social status and profits drop because of the mass production of industries located in the city. Their goal was to protect themselves against the growing command that factories were filling out. To analyze their success level you have to look at what they had accomplished and not what they stood or worked for. This class came together as a union that called themselves The London Working Men’s Association that then passed several acts through parliament. The most known act was a reform call Chartism. This act passed the following:
universal male suffrage( types of benefits for injured workers)
Annual election of the House of Commons ( representatives for common people)
A secret ballot
Equal electoral districts
Abolition of property requirement to pass votes of take part in community affairs
Abolition of required payments for members of the House of Commons.
These action made their efforts somewhat protected but they were still not fully successful because there were no restrictions placed on factories and what they produced. Industries still produced mass gods and eventually artistians businesses failed.

Many other protests were made for the working condition for children. before any acts were made children would work long hours with short breaks in unsafe and unsanitary conditions. they were paid little, exploited, and not allowed an education. Children would often be injured and hurt while working and this caused parliament to take action against the privately owned businesses. In terms of being successful, the acts for children legally solved most of the children’s problems and children were able to work freely with more safety. Acts included working hours. Children under 9 could not work under the English Factory Act of 1833. Children older could only work 13 hours a day and the employer was obliged to give each of his child employees two hours of paid education. The thirteen hour work day was then shortened to ten hours for children and because of this, many other reforms were made for the average factory worker. This act was successful in terms of achievement though problems remained in the unsanitary conditions of factories and mills. These acts were justifiable and necessary unlike act such as the prison placements.

NOT TEQUNICALY A WORKING CONDITION
An act that was not justifiable in my opinion was the prison sentencing as a result of the growing crime in cities. The growing crimes in cities were a direct result of over population in cities because of the industrial revolution. Over crowding in jails lead police men to create a system of transportation. Transportation was a reform or protest movement that was implemented into prison. They would send criminals off to isolated areas where they could not interact with other inmates. The prisoner would be forced to wear a mask a stay separated from everything. This would drive a person mentally insane! The method worked however and crime rates dropped but it was still inhumane in my opinion.

Jessica Silva said...

Responses:
1.I agree with ceenguyen when he states the differences in attention towards different issues during the beginning stages of the industrial revolution. The children, in my iopinion, defiantly recived more benefits from protests thatn the other reforms and grounds who took other measures.
2.I also agree with Cindy. Her argument is not bias and states the many errors with protesting and the violence the radical group committed. I also think that it is funny that they ended up hurting themselves more than helping their cause. They were only able to pass one act and that was with help from parliament.

claudiat_15 said...

The Development of the Industrial Revolution progressively moved from the French Revolution on to Britain.It was a time of advancement of technology and innovation, some of the inventions were the water frame, steam engine and cotton gin. In this period children of many ages worked many hours too hard as well as women. the production of supply was greatly increasing as well as the population. As the population continued to grow so did the demand for supply. This was boosting the economy with major change but had no pretty ending, with the protests that commenced. Such as an act that didn't permit any longer for kids under the age of 9 to work called the Factory act of 1833.
1. I disagree with Lizbeth that women or children were looked down as weak. They worked very hard for many long hours producing more supplies. But they weren't looked uo to either, children and women just fulfilments to keep labor going.
2. I agree with Cindy that there could have been a more wise non-violent way to protest the Industrial Revolution (Luddites). The destruction of factories and machinery wasn't a very great ay to work matters out.

Jenniferbeee said...

The Industrial Revolution was a movement that started in Great Britain. Even though the Industrial Revolution brought along the discovery of many new inventions and ways to better society, it also brought many protests concerning the working conditions.
One such protest was the Factory Act of 1833. Many people were concerned that children were being worked too hard for too long. The Factory Act of 1833 limited the hours per day that a child could work to 9 hours a day for children between the ages of nine to thirteen. It also prohibited children under the age of 9 from working in a factory. I believe that the Factory Act of 1833 was successful because after this Act was established, reformers agreed that the ideal working environment for a woman was in the home, not in a factory.

Responses:
I don't fully agree with LIZBETHHH when she says that women and children were looked down upon as 'weak.' While children and women didn't have all the full rights that men did, they were still accomplishing jobs that under other circumstances, many believed only men could fulfill. Even though women and children were known as cheap labor, they were fulfilling jobs just as well as men could.

I agree with CINDY when she states that the Factory Act allowed more family time for the children. Since children had to work less hours, it allowed families to come together as a domestic unit.

dijah=) said...

The industrial revolution occured during the same time as the french revolution.During the industrial revolution their was a dramatic change in the agricultural and technology in britian.The industrial revolution had many positive factors like increasing the economy.A form of protest againt the industrial revolution was the protest against work for children in factories.Before the factory act of 1833 minors worked in factories.After the act passed it limited the hours of day that children under the age of nine could work.This limited the deathn of children and allowed more family time between the parents and the children.Another protest movement was the chartist the chartist were middle class and peasents who wanted the same rights as the wealthy .They wanted the government to pass the people's charter which listed all the rights they should have.

dijah=) said...

I agree with the factory act of 1833.Before the factory act of 1833 it was really dangerous because kids were working machines that were bigger than them.When kids work machines that are bigger tahn them it's more likley that the kids would get hurt.Also the kids worked hours that was unbelivable for children to work.The act gave more family time with children and their family and more kids were able to get an education because they didn't have to work.

dijah=) said...

i disagree with lizabeth that women were looked at as weak.I think that women wasn't potrayed as week because they had jobs they might have not had the same jobs as men but they still contributed.Men probaly potrayed women as weak because they didn't want them to feel like they were better than men.I think deep down men knew that if they exposed more women to education and other jobs they could prove to be as smart as them.

Anonymous said...

The Industrial Revolution was had occurred during the time of the French Revolution. In which the Industrial Revolution consisted of machines replacing the man and animal power in production and in manufacturing goods. The roots of the Industrial Revolution was the Commercial Revolution because the pollution increased, working conditions were harmful and capitalists employed women and young children. They were to work hard and long hours. Then later in time to protect the children from being harmed in labor there were acts made. The first was the Factory Act of 1833 this act limited the hours per day to work and prohibited children under nine to work certain hours. Later the Mines Act of 1842 prohibited all children under the age of ten from working underground. Another thing that the Revolution created was that more and more people were moving into the cities. This was due to the fact of Urbanization of the world. The cities was a rubbish place and a dirty place, very crowded. This caused diseases to spread faster upon the cities. The amount of success that Revolution had I would say was very successful it created a faster way of producing and manufacture goods. It made less labor for the people and made trade go about more faster. There were many pros and cons about the Industrial Revolution but I would say it had more pros that it did cons.

2 student responces:
I agree with Ian because parents were not even able to help out there yound at work. They had to obey in order to get paid. "Children nine to thirteen were only allowed to work nine hours a day and the factory owner had to pay for two hours of schooling a day" this means that basically the act was very successful because the companies had to obey. Because children should not have been treated with such rath.

I also agree with Amanda that the factory acts were in a way successful and not successful. The factory acts were made to provide a safer place for children. Just as she said, "The Factory Acts provided a safer environment for women and children." It helped them feel safer but did not create a better pay.

purplegirl said...

The Industrial Revolution was a period of time where marketings, industries, trading processes sky rocketed. Yet during these wonderful beneficial processes there were flaws. Young children and women would work in unsafe coal mines. Children would be soffocated my the coal dust in the air. Also many children suffered of flooding in the coal mines. Many of which beleieved that these working conditions are to unsafe for unstable young children. So in 1833 the English Factory was issued and forbaded the employment of children under the age of nine and reduced the workday hours of of children from ages of nine and thirteen to nine hours. Many young children worked in factories all day and wasn't given the chance for a good education. Education started to be charged for families.

sharonnxx said...

The industrial revolution occurred on a time period in the eighteenth to nineteenth century, which was the same time the French Revolution took place. It was a drastic change to agriculture, technology, and also economy which highly affected the way of living to society. Although this movement created great inventions, there were many protests against the revolution. The protest movements were aroused by middles classes and the working classes because they were getting more educated, so they knew what was going on more with the government. One group of protesters, called The Chartists wanted The People's Charter to be established. The document contained equal electoral district, annual parliaments, vote by ballot, etc. The Swing Riots involved the farm laborers who were unemployed because of the invention of the threshing machine. They were jobless, and suffered of starvation. These rioters damaged the threshing machines and threatened the farmers who had it. The rioters were unsuccessful, they were dealt with harsh consequences. The working conditions of the industrial revolution was very harsh, unsafe, and unsanitary. People that worked in the industries had to work for long hours of labor. A group of people, called the reformers, thought this was unfair for the employees and wanted change for the working conditions. The Factory Act 1819 limited the hours for working children to a maximum of 12 per day. The Factory Act 1847 gave a maximum of 10 hours work per day for Women and children.

purplegirl said...

2 responses

I 100% agree with Ian and his information about the Industrial Revolution and the flaws with child labor. His information of the protest for child labor couldn't be more clear. The English Factory Act of 1833 was a great impact that save young children from horible working conditions. Yet it still was a good benefit for children to nine-13 better working hours and still earn prophit for their families.

i also agree with lizbethhhh the industrial revolution was a period of rapid change in agriculture, manufacturing, mining, and transporting goods to other destinations. This period really reflects on how our industry economy is also.

sharonnxx said...

I agree with ceenguyen that the women and children began to get better working conditions and hours in the time period of the inustrial revolution. Factory Act 1819 limited the hours worked by children to a maximum of 12 per day. The Factory Act 1833 banned children under 9 from working in the textiles industry and 10-13 year old limited to a 48 hour week. Factory Act 1844 let a maximum of 12 hours work per day for women.Factory Act 1847 let a maximum of 10 hours work per day for Women and children. The Factory Act 1850 increased hours worked by Women and children to 10 and a half hours a day, but not allowed to work before 6am or after 6pm. In 1874 workers were not allowed to work more than about 56 hours per week.

sharonnxx said...

I agree with Cindy that the Luddites were protesters of the Industrial Revolution. The Luddites were very violent with their actions. THey were protesting against their loss of social status and wealth. THey were losing their jobs because of the invention of new frames in the mills. The Prime Minister established the Frame breaking Act because of their uncivilized actions and caused disruptions. They were very different in the form of protesting with the Chartists.

zaryn12 said...

The Industrial Revolution was a drastic change from the French Revolution. New inventions of machinery became popular and spread rapidly throughout England. Although the Industrial Revolution seemed like it was beneficial for the country, it was harmful to many. People, including children young as the age of 5, were put to work in the industrial factories. Around this time, it was common to see young children working in factories, no matter the age. Poor families couldn't send their children to school because they needed the extra income, this then resulted in sending their kids to work in factories. They worked long, tiresome days on heavy machinery just to make below minimum wage. Child labor later became too much of an issue. Then a form of protest was proposed, the Factory Act of 1833. This act eventually prohibited children of a certain age to work and limited the amount of hours one worked.

I agree with Cindy, because the Factory Act of 1833 did benefit the children. This act kept them out of factories and away from dangerous machinery. The Factory Act benefits us today by prohibiting us from working until a certain age.

I agree with Richard that many people didn't go with the Industrial Revolution. Not only did people not agree with teh I.R. it also brought hazards and difficulties such as child laboring. It may have seemed beneficial, but for others it a struggle.

Tiffany.t said...

The Industrial Revolution was a period from the 18th to the 19th century where changes in manufacturing, agriculture and transportation took place. Starting in Great Britain, the industrial soon engulfed all of Europe and had some sort of influence on every feature of daily life. Like most times of rapid change with the revolution came protest.
The Chartists were people who wanted the ‘Peoples Charter’ to be accepted. The Peoples Charter was a document that set out reforms that the working and middle class people wanted the government to make. Chartists fit into one of two categories: Moral Force Chartists or Physical Force Chartists. Moral Force Chartists were peaceful protesters while Physical Force Chartists planned to force change through physical force and violence. I think that overall peaceful protests achieve more then a forceful one. I think that the Moral Force Chartists were justified in the actions they took. The Physical Force Chartists on the other hand were not justifiable. They should have chosen an alterative method.


Responses:
I agree with Cindy when she said that the Luddites weren’t very successful protesters. Even though they protested the Industrial Revolution still raged on. They used force to obtain their goals and that got them no where. There were other methods the Luddites could have used to solve their problems.
I also agree with Lizbeth when she said that the Luddites were unemployed because they couldn’t compete with the machines that would only require relatively limited and unskilled labor that would produce cloth than one weaver. They were annoyed at their rapid loss of status and wealth due to the new frames in the mills. They were upset by the lack of sympathy shown by the mill owners and even resorted to destroying the frames responsible for their predicament. While just in their cause, their methods were unreasonable in their methods.

laurenG said...

The Industrial Revolution was a time of discovery and advancement mostly in the country of Britain who was the leader of this revolution.Although it had its moments of praise with the new inventions and effectivness of getting things done, how exactly they were accomplished was not always accepted. There were harsh conditions within places that people were forced to work and it came to the point were certain laws had to take place. For instance there were many kid who were forced to work in the harsh conditions on factories with bad air and dangerous machinery. The English Factory Act of 1833 made it illegal for any child under age 9 to work in the factories and any child between age 9-13 to work in the factory only for a limited time and their education must be paid for. This protest proved to be succesful because many people agreed that young kids shouldn't be working in factories with just harsh conditions.
Another protest was the Mines Acts of 1842. This banned kids under age of 10 to work underground. Even for an adult working underground was a dangerous job to take on given the things that could happen, so putting a child in this position was not allowed after this law.


I agree with nartanna that having children work in the factories took away their time to get an education. But with the Factory Act it allowed children who did work in the factories a chance to still get their education.

I also agreed with Zaryn12 about the Industrial Revolution being beneficial for the most part, but in a it wasen't for some. It was because kids were constantly put at risk with the jobs they would have to do. Even the women were given dangerous tasks and although they were bringing in more of an income with this Revolution their lives were still in danger.

joannaisOG said...

Towards the beginning of the 18th century, the transformation from agricultural life to industrial life took place. This is most commonly known as the Industrial Revolution. The Industrial Revolution was a time period of non-stop work, mass production, and inventions used to make daily life less harsh. Of all the glory it was composed of, the background behind it wasn't the same. The people that were mainly affected by the industrial revolution, in a bad way, were definitely women and children. A woman's natural place to attend work would be in one's own home; caring for children and raising them. Yet during the 18th century, women attended harsh factories instead to meet Europe's fierce demand for factory made goods. This was indeed a harsh place for women to be because of the stress that came with it. Women back then typically had around 10 kids. The physical damage that wore on them made working during the industrial revolution even MORE difficult.
But, women weren't the only suffering workers in the revolution. Children were greatly a part of it as well. Working as young as 5 years old, children were put into life threatening postions to work. Many children died, for the conditions were just too harsh for young ones to handle. Eventually, in 1833, things began to change. The Factory Act of 1833 was established. This Act reduced the number of hours for children and women to work. Too make things even greater, children under the age of 9 were prohibited to work. This marked the beginning of the end of child labor. (:

I agree with CEENGUYEN on what she says about the acts that helped labor conditions better. She mentions the Mines Act of 1842 which were a big part in ending child labor. The Mines Act of 1842 prohibited all children under the age of 10 from working underground.

I also agree with CINDY as well. When she states that the Luddites weren't succussful, it makes me realize the little things that helped make bigger ideas, such as the Mines Act, possible. To me, it helped push changes faster.

RICO;p2012 said...

The Industrial Revolution was a major movement that occurred in the early 18th century. It is now known as the period where industrialization grew rapidly and when a series of new innovations came about and created life-styles which enabled people to accomplish more work without the hassle of much labor. Beginning in Britain, the Industrial Rev spread instantly it helped in urbanizing England and gave those more opportunities that later benefited their economy.
Although the Industrial Rev did benefit countries such as Britain it also sparked a series of protests that in the end result hurt country's economies. For example the Factory Act of 1833 limited a worker's hours per day of work and also banned underage children to work in the dangerous factories. This act had its benefits and consequences. It effectively kept children safer by not exposing them to such dangerous labor at such a young age. This act also angered many because they lost labor hours; therefore they were losing their hourly wage.
Another protest brought forth during the Industrial Rev was the group of the Luddites. They were British textile known for attacking factories and breaking the machinery due to their belief that they were losing their jobs. They also disagreed with the new wide-spread farms that now produced more goods and required fewer workers. However these groups of protesters weren’t very successful because the Industrial Rev continued to grow larger seeming to just slide by the protests.
-Alyssa Rico

2 Responses:

I definitely agree with Cindy. Our ideas were much alike in determining the protests that occurred during the Industrial Rev. We both mentioned the unsuccessful group of the Luddites. We also said something according to the Factory Act of 1833 and how children benefited from this document.

I also agree with Amanda Zac. Her information is relevant when she refers to the Industrial Rev leading to many achievements that prospered economic growth. I also agree with the fact that there was a concern for inhumane working environments for women and children.

Roosevelt said...

The Industrial Revolution was an era of technological machinery advances. This great leap of advances all started in Great Britain (Europe) which caused a great deal of discoveries and new ways to view the world in England. The Industrial Revolution sparked many chances for the economy to expand and prosper but not many chances for the workers who do everything and get little credit while the mine owner or buisness man gets all the glory and money.

One example of protest on the Industrial Revolution working cond. was the fact. act of 1833. This act had struck the hours per day of working. It also did not let children under the age of nine work. This helped the families alot without the worries of their children getting hurt but playing and going to if any available schools.

Another example of protest against the industrial revolution was the Chartism. This was a political reform. This reform was made up of six points of the charter that were in demand and specific. One it included the universal male suffrage, annual election of the house of vommons, secret ballot, equal electoral districts, and also abolition of prop. qualifications for payment of salaries to members of house of commons. Many times the Chartists who were greatly organized tries to get these needed reforms but parliment refused it.

Two responses

1. I agree with Cindy on how she had stated that when the factory act of 1833 prohibites children from work made more family time which helps strengthen the bonds and gives hope. I also agree with Cindy on how she said that the economy would be growing by many opportunities. I believe that the opportunities would be inventions and creations from people who were strengthening the society.

2. I agree with ian for he is correct when he states that Britain advanced more quickly than any other country in Europe. I also agree with ian that the english factory act of 1833 was a success because it accomplished it's goals and was granted by parliment. Lastly i agree with ian on the fact that people cam to the thoughts on how they should keep the women in the homes rather then in the mines and factories.

catsayshilynn said...

The Industrial Revolution created many new jobs for the people but they were forced to work in harsh conditions. To go against the harsh conditions of their work, two acts were passed. First was the Factory Act of 1833. It banned children under the age of nine from working in the factories. The act also gave restrictions to the amount of hours the workers are able to work. Mines Act of 1842 forbid children under ten from working underground. These were effective for protecting children from harmful situations from actions like improper use of the equipment. The factory owners cannot force overtime on the workers and they would be able to get rest. But it did not solve the problem for women and children, they were paid less because they are easier to manipulate and suppress.

I agree with Ian. He supported the effectiveness of the act about how it helped the children. They were able to help with the income for the family and provide themselves with an education. And with women thinking of their work as a second home, the conditions must not be that bad.

I agree with nartanna. The factory owner did take advantage of the children. They were used as cheap labor but they were still able to get an education. But for women, they did not benefit as much because they were just paid less.

juliafranco said...

Yes, we all understand that the Industrial Revolution was a time for dramatic change and new ways of life though it may not occur to some people that some people viewed it as being a brutal, harsh, and disgusting way of reforming. For instance, children would often be porrly treated in factories. As if they were adults, owners did not take into consideration that perhaps age might matter. Some interviews by children describe the factories of being nothing else but a careless and violent enviorment. For example, the method of whiping was used, they most likely never gave them time to rest or eat, they did not care if the machinery was too dangerous for the child, and lastly the children made hardly any money while working. It seems that all the owner's concerns were to make profit and that was that. No moral thinking was taken into consideration while children and weak adults were taken advantage of. Thus, the Factory Act of 1833 was enforced. It limited children to only a few hours of work, and children under nine were prohibited. This act greatly improved the working lives of people, especially children.

Responses:

I definitely agree with Amanda in one of her responses she makes. She notes that women couldn't have possibly seemed as weak as the were in earlier eras such as the Renaissance. It is true that women did have to uphold jobs that also men completed but it also shows that they weren't too weak since they were given the right to work and make money just like men.

Though i disagree with adesuyo when they state that the Industrial Revolution was a time of tense changes. I wouldn't necessarily consider it to be tence. For reason being that many good oppurtunities were opened up for Britian this revolution was their glorifying age. I could understand that it was tense here and there with some of the working conditons. Though overall i would not consider it to be tense.

OHaiTharJason said...

The working conditions of the Industrial revolution were very poor. One way that people tried to improve the working conditions for children, was with the Factory Acts of 1833. The Factory Acts kept children under the age of nine from working. With these Acts in place, the deaths of children were kept to a minimum. Another thing that it helped was the concept of family. Without children who were constantly working, there was an increase in the importance of family ties. Another rule of the Factory Acts of 1833, was that it allowed children from 9 to 13 work for only nine hours a day and was forced to pay for two hours of education for employed children. One way this could have effected children was in their education.

Gbogo Adebayo-Ige said...

The Industrial Revolution resulted in huge changes in agriculture, manufacturing, transportation, etc. But it didn't go without its fair share of controversy. One main point of controversy was the working condiditons, specifically the labor of children. Children were often employed especially at a young age because they were small enough to fit through the machinery in the factory. Although this was an advantage for the employers, it placed them at an extremely great deal of risk because the machines that were used in the factories were often very "raw" and exposed. As a result of these events, the rate of injury and death increased in the factories not just for the children, but across all the demographics. The well-being of children was always at risk and it was morally wrong to place the children in these sitations. Fotunately, the Factory Act of 1833 banned children under 9 from working in the textile industry and it also limited the number of hours children from the ages 10-13 can work.

Another protest of the Industrial Revolution was the Combination Acts, which banned any form of organized union from 1799-1824. Even after this period, the formation of unions were severely restricted. Although this resulted in an increased production workforce, it basically took away the freedoms of the workers and did not allow them any say in their employment.

OHaiTharJason said...

I agree with Jessica Silva, with her statement about the working conditions of children. Children were definitely exploited and taken advantage of. But even so, the Factory Acts of 1833 did still have a problem. Even though they kept children from working for "too long," they were ineffective in preventing the work of children altogether.

I also agree with Cindy when she talks about how the Luddites revolted with violence. It was definitely correct that their methods proved too violent and that they were taking away the jobs of others. The Luddites were mainly unsuccessful in changing the ways of the Industrial Revolution, and something they definitely could have done was negotiate with higher powers or come up with a more effective argument that did not include a rage against the machines.

Gbogo Adebayo-Ige said...

I agree with d_duarte when she remarked how diseases spreaded faster in the cities. This occured because of the immensely growing population density of the cities, workplaces, slums, and houses. Also, the constant pollution by the factories by dumping their waste into rivers resulted in diseases for the population too. The main diseases that were present during this period were cholera, typhoid fever, and tuberculosis.

Gbogo Adebayo-Ige said...

I disagree with RICO;p2012 when she said that the Factory Act of 1833 had its fair share of consequences. She said it angered many because many were losing their hourly wage. This Act was only applied to working children to the age of 13. The Act banned children under the age of 9 of working and children from the ages of 10-13 were limited to only working 48 hours per week. Even if the children were getting paid, they were getting paid in feeble amounts as their employers took advantage of the fact that they are children.

JamesLee said...

The industrial revolution was during the 18th and 19th century where it caused major changes to agriculture, manufacturing, mining, and transport starting in Britain. During the industrial revolution, it gave factory owners beneficial advantage while it gave factory workers put into harsh and unfair treatment. The industrial revolution also caused many people to lose jobs since technology made work much easier. Protest started to happen. During the industrial revolution, Luddites rose to protest since they started to lose there jobs. They were a social movement of British textile artisans in the early 19th century who protested by destroying factories. The Luddites also brought about the ideas that technology is never neutral and some are even hurtful. For example, while the while the Spinning Jenny was beneficial to the textile industry, it also put several spinners out of business. Although they destroyed many factories, machine breaking was made a capital crime made by the Frame Breaking Act which caused men to be executed and prisoners to be sent to Australia. Many men werent ready to give up there lives so they abandoned the group which started to weaken it. Eventually the government defeated the Luddites.

JamesLee said...

I agree with Cindy because violence did not solve anything. Instead violence just caused many men to get executed while they werent ready to give up there lives.

I agree with Cheyenne because the factory act abolished childrens from ages nine to thirteen which set a positive impact. Which then secures the children's health, safety,welfare, and other benefits.

briaaana said...

The Industrial Revolution had begun in eighteenth century Great Britain with the advances in textile productions. Europe gradually transitioned from an agricultural and commercial society into a modern industrial society.
The industrial economy ultimately produced an immense impact on the home and family life of women. First, it took most productive work out of the home and allowed families to live on the wages of the male spouse. Then, the transformation made a new concept where women came to be associated with domestic duties, such as housekeeping, food preparation, child rearing and nurturing, and household management.
I think it was successful because it let women to have an opportunity in employment. They got to work in factories and work on the Land and in the home.

2 responses:
I agree with nartanna that having children work in the factories took away their time to get an education. The Factory Act did let the children have an education after.
I also agree with sharonnxx when she talks about the protesters, called the Chartists. I believe the rioters were unsuccessful because as prosperity returned after the depression of the late 1830s and early1840s, many working people abandoned the movement.

yvettem said...

During the Industrial Revolution the working conditions were very harsh. One protest that tried to improve the working conditions was the Saddler Commission which investigated the working conditions and helped initiate the legislature to improve the conditions in factories. In this time children were exploited and had very little personal freedom. Children spent more time working than learning or playing.Two acts were passed to make sure that children were working in a safer environment. One act was the Factory Act of 1833 which limited the number of hours a day to work and did not let kids under nine work in factories. The Mines Act of 1842 did not let kids under the age of 10 work underground in mines. All these protests helped better the working conditions.

Responses:
I agree with amandazac12 because are responses are alike. I agree with her in the fact that the factory acts did provide safer environments for children and women. Even though it didn't alter the way women were underpaid. It was not fair that women sometimes did the same amount of work as the men but were not paid the same amount.

I agree with Cathilynn we both had similar responses on the Mines Act. I agree that the Mines Act did take children out of situations that could have potentially been dangerous.The factory owners still under paid women and children. Since women and children were cheaper labor they were hired more often and since they were easier to manipulate they were able to exploit them.

Cindy said...

I agree with amandazac because she basically agrees with what I say about the Luddites and how they weren't very successful in their endeavors.

I also agree with cheyenne b because of their comment on child labor. It's true that the restrictions of child labor helped parents and children spend more time together.

Stacie Ann said...

The Industrial Revolution was a period whenmajor changes in agriculture, manufacturing, mining, and transport weres started in England and later spread throughout the rest of Europe. During the industrial revolution many jobs were available, but working conditions were harsh. Children were put to work in harsh conditions as well as adults. Children had to work with dangerous machinery and spent more time working rather than learning and having time to themselves. The Factory Act of 1833 prohibited children under the age of 9 and restricted their work hours. Another form of protest against the Industrial revolution was the Luddites. They believed that factories were taking their jobs. They disliked the new wide-spread farms that required fewer workers and produced more goods. As a result they attacked factories and broke machinery. I believe that these protests were somewhat successful because it helped children and women from working in harsh conditions such as mines.

I agree with catsayshilyn about the mine act of 1842. She stated that the act forbid children under ten from working underground. It also forbid women from working in mines as well. The act lowered the large number of accidents and deaths. It also protected children from the harsh conditions in the mines such as heat and steaminess.
I also agree with Richard about the chartists. They sought political democracy for all men and wanted the People's Charter to be accepted. The people's charter was a document that list all the reforms that the middle class wanted to improve working conditions, wages, and hours first of skilled labor and later unskilled labor.

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The Industrial Revolution was a movement was an era of advancements in technology to help increase efficiency in people’s lives. In Britain, the Industrial Revolution provided new opportunities for economic growth. Although it urbanized England as new discoveries were made there were protests against the new social order and awful working conditions that was occuring. The Luddites were British textile artisans who protested against the new wide-framed automated looms that produced more and required less laborers, thus taking away their jobs. An example of protests against the Industrial Revolution; Luddites protest were focused towards factories and their working conditions such as broke machinery, stuffy air/ hard-to-breathe air and was believed it was causing an increase in unemployment. Luddites’ protest seemed to be unsuccessful due to the fact that their way of protest was violent and was lead by rage, also the Industrial Revolution eventually continued to develop regardless.

Factory Act of 1833 was another substantial protest against the Industrial Revolution’s working conditions. It was so significant because it limited the hours per day of work and prohibited children under the age of nine to work. Immensely it helped because these children didn't have to work with dangerous machinery it also provided more family time.

Another group of people that were involved were the Chartists. Chartists were people who wanted the People's Charter, a document that lists all the reforms that the middle class and ordinary class to be accepted by the government, to be accepted.



Responses:
I agree with ceenguyen-
she mentions the working children which were struggling immensely throughout the I.R. would receive relief from the hard working protesters. Also when she discusses the differences how the mindset had changed from the beginning of the I.R.

I agree with Cindy
-i agree when cindy stated "did not achieve anything substantial." Because although the protest had a solid fondation to focus on, the horrible working conditions, it didn’t solidify it’s points. Also she states violence usually solves nothing, and more or less makes the situation worse.