Analyze and discuss 1-2 forms of protest against the Industrial Revolution and working conditions. (discuss how successful it was and if their actions were justifiable or should they have utilized an alternative method)
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There are various ways people tried to fight of crucial labor during the industrial revolution.
One of those ways is known as Chartism.Some British workers and William Lovett formed the London Working Men's Association. They listed six specific reforms they wanted: universal male suffrage, annual election of the house of commons, secret ballot, equal electoral districts, and abolition of property qualification,also the payment of salaries. This reforms were never passed by parliament. The chartist also published the newspaper Nothern Star. They could have done better to fight for their reforms, but i believe they did well by publishing the Norther Star it well helo get the word out. Later some of the six reforms were passed but if they were organized and protested harder they could have had the six reforms they wanted passed earlier.
The English Act of 1833 was another way they tried to fight off the dangerous labor during the indusrtrial revolution.This act forbade children under nine to thirteen to work more than nine hours a day.The factory worker had to also pay for two hours of education for each children. British workers demanded fewer hours for adults so they can spend more time with their children. It was their job to rear their own children not schools. These reforms actually got what they wanted and succedeed and as soon as they reached a goal they worked to get another gorl achieved in order to help life in the factories be more safe and less tiring by demanding less hours for workers.
Going along with what Laura said, people started to protest against the very unfair working conditions by organizing into different groups. There were those who tried to protect children by passing the English Act of 1833 by requiring education and a limit of hours to work for children. There were also a set wage for individuals depending on their gender and age. Others, like the Luddites, directly attacked factories and burned down machines. They wanted to show their protest in a stronger, more violent way. Many also rebelled by not going to work. Chartism never really spread, but their ideas were adopted by many. They weren't a very organized group, which hindered the spread of the idea, however the various aspects of this concept was acknowledged by many, and continued to develop.
The Luddites were a social movement during the Industrial Revolution that protested against this by destroying mechanical looms in many factories. Luddites were made of 19th century English artisans that wanted to rebel against this big movement due to there anger and frustration. the Luddites disagreed with the changes made during the industrial revolution leaving them without work and changing their way of life. As the Luddites protested by burning factories and destroying different mechanics I believe their way of voicing out their opinion was wrong. By damaging mechanics they didnt get much out of it. The factories held many different machines that then could be replaced, but other than that nothing was really done. 17 men were executed after an 1813 trial and then many others of the supporting group got transported as prisoners to Australia. I believe the best way for their voice to be heard about this was to take action and talk to someone that will be able to make a change & listen to what they had to say. No one will be able to take them serious as their cracking down many factories and destroying their properties.
For the Industrial Revolution there were many ways people tried to fight against it. Chartism was working class movement for political reform. The "People's Charter" called for reforms or goals to change the Industrial Revolution. Eventually, the majority of the goals were successfully met. The Luddites were an agressive group who attacked factories and stole machinery. They were upset with the working conditions and wages. To try to improve the Industrial Revolution the Factory Act was set as well as the Mines Act. The Factory Act forbid children under 10 from working in the factories. The Mines Act forbid children under 9 to work underground.
One of the ways people protested against the Industrial Revolution was exemplified through the Factory Act of 1833. Through this act, the hours were limited, and children under the age of nine were prohibited from working. Originally, hours were much longer and children were working more than they should have. There were also various other Factory Acts that reformed working conditions even more. These actions were justified because children were not capable of the labor of adults, yet they were still enduring it. These acts were effective, because if you look at life today, child labor is not present in our country, though it still unfortunately exists in other nations.
Chartism was also an example of protest against the working conditions of the Industrial Revolution. ALthough they were unsuccessful at first, their voice was heard in the end through much effort. The Chartists wanted political democracy for men, and with the Great Charter, they improved working conditions, wages, and hours of skilled labor. Later on, they gained the same rights for the unskilled labor.
Bryanna Esplana: I agree with this point that you have made and actually didn't even consider the Luddites. However, they were definitely a great example of protest against the Industrial Revolution. Instead of protesting against the working conditions, they were against the machines and improved technology. The Luddies attacked factories and broke machines in order to prove their point. They believed that all the machinery was putting them out of work, and resulted to chaotic actions. The actions of the Luddites showed that while the technology was improving productivity, it wasn't positively affecting everyone. Some people were put at a disadvantage due to the Industrial Revolution.
Michaela Colburn: Chartism and the Factory Act of 1833 are common choices when looking for examples of protest against the Industrial Revolution. The Mines Act of 1842 was also included in this response, and I feel as if it's definitely against the working conditions. The mines were a really dangerous place to work due to the dangers of drowning, as well as suffocation from poisonous gases. There could be cave-ins, and people risked lung disease from coal dust. Not only that, but the environment was damp, dark, with limited space. The Mines Act prohibited children under ten from working underground, which was most certainly justified, because children should not have to endure such horrible conditions.
I agree with Micheal Colbourn.
Even thought the Charters did not meet their goals immediately. Since they were very unorganized and not many agreed on the same thing, they were divided in half. But some of their specific 6 reformers, were eventually taken into action.
Natsuki:
The Engligh act of 1833 did demand the Owner of the factory to pay for two hours of education for each children. Two hours of education was not enough for children to progress in reading and writing. These two hours only focused on the basics. The children were still not very educated.
Lily Lewis: I agree with how you pointed out that the Factory Acts did help out the working conditions of the children. Children definitely were not mature enough to handle the work load, yet were forced to; this justifies peoples' concerns for the well being of children I like how you tied this movement in with the modern-day world and how working conditions for current teens are much better than during that time period. It is very unfortunate that illegal childlabor is still present in different parts of the world.
During the Industrial Revolution, a variety of protests began to form against working conditions. The Factory Act of 1833 improved the conditions for children that were working in the factories. It limited the working age of children to nine and they received two hours of schooling each day. Children nine to thirteen years old could not work more than nine hours a day and children thirteen to eighteen could not work more than twelve hours a day. The passing of this act was successful in that it reduced the long hours that children worked and the Factory Act lead to more investigations of the working conditions for children. The Mines Act of 1842 prohibited the employment underground of women and children under the age of ten. This was effective in protecting women and young children from the dangerous working conditions, however, some women needed a job to earn more money and mining was not an option any more for them.
Lilly Lewis: Going about the factory act I believe that this was one of the most effective ways they protested by. The factory act set boundaries for hard working children limiting their working hours and the age limit for working in a factory. I believe the factory act was the most sufficient way to protest because if you look back to the Luddites they tried protesting against the new machines by breaking them,setting them on fire etc. By them doing that it made them look very un professional and I believe if they really would of wanted to do something about the factory machines they would of thought of doing something that would make them look serious about wanting a change.
Michaela Colburn: Going about the Mines Act of 1842 I agree with the fact that they set this Act so Children under the age of 9 couldnt work underground. From all the new jobs given people to work at I believe working in the mines is one of the most dangerous places to work. People that worked down in the mines had a higher risk of engaging in lung diseases since working in a area filled with coal dust. People also suffered from suffocation of the poisonous gases. As to working in the factory there also were dangerous possibilities but many of them were ones that you yourself could keep cation of and not have it to happen. But working in mines you have no control of the fact of the air your working in and the diseases you can catch from easily working in their. So as to the Mines act of 1842 I believe it was one of the best ways to protest to save childrens lives.
Lily Lewis: I agree with how you mentioned that Chartists were not just successful overnight and it was a process to spread their opinions about the working conditions. The Chartists were not very organized, so when they attempted to spread their ideas, that factor interfered with the development of Chartism. I recognize how the Factory Acts were successful in revising the working conditions especially with children. The Factory Act of 1833 specifically aided the children by reducing their labor hours and additionally, giving them the opportunity of education each day for two hours.
Natsuki: I agree with how the Factory Act of 1833 protected children. Their working hours were reduced and the children got two hours of education. However, the Luddites took action of violent protests because they did not support the changes during the Industrial Revolution. I do not think this way of getting their point across was effective, but they did impact the society by presenting the rights of workers.
The industrial revolution influenced many things in a positive way.Though there were many postive things during this time working annd labor conditions had a great impact during this time.The working conditions during this victorian era were disgusting and uttterly crucial. One of the ways people trying fighting against the conditions and crucial labors was The Factory act of 1833 that limited working hours per day and prohibited children under the age of 9. Another Act that was passed for these protest was the Mines Act of 1842 which prohibited all children under the age of 10 from working underground. When influential person during this time of protest was Friedrich Engels who lashed out at the middle class because of how poorly and abusive they treated wagearners.
The industrial revolution influenced many things in a positive way.Though there were many postive things during this time working annd labor conditions had a great impact during this time.The working conditions during this victorian era were disgusting and uttterly crucial. One of the ways people trying fighting against the conditions and crucial labors was The Factory act of 1833 that limited working hours per day and prohibited children under the age of 9. Another Act that was passed for these protest was the Mines Act of 1842 which prohibited all children under the age of 10 from working underground. When influential person during this time of protest was Friedrich Engels who lashed out at the middle class because of how poorly and abusive they treated wagearners.
Going off of what bryanna esplana said, the luddites had a great impact during this time. The luddites were a volient group of people who went through the cities breaking machines, to express their rage at the diffrent indutries and factories. These people felt the improvements and aid technological developments during this time put people out of jobs and pay. They used this violent form of rebellion to protest against wage reductions and the horrible working conditions.
Going of what laura said the Chartists also had a great impact during this time. The Chartist were a social group who sought political democracy for all men.Charitism was based on the People's Charter, a document written in 1838 by William Lovett and other radicals of the London Working Men's Association, and adopted at a national convention of workingmen's organizations. The charter wanted several changes to the Parliamentary system:
Universal Male Suffrage
Annual Parliaments
Vote by ballot
Abolition of the property qualification for MPs
Payment of MPs
Equal electoral constituencies
Though they called for these several changes they were never passedd by parliment.
The indusrtial revolution influenced many of the advances and industries of today. They were successfull in the sense of modernizing the society. But builing cities and factories which provided more with jobs. Instead of woring on fileds and farms. In a sense its kind of like today by nmot having enough jobs and people that dont have any where to live and income. Yet the living conditions and work conditions were not. They were very hazorduous and filthy which actually shprtened life expectancy due to being over worked and exposed to gases. Their were poeple called Luddites who broke into factories and destroyed them to make a statement. What the owners could have done back then was to let men work and pay them enough to support their family. Instead of their wives having to leave their children with other people to raise them. The mine act and factory act did help the cause because it put giudlines on work .
I agree with Natsuki, their were many that tried to make change for a longer expectancy . Many were dying due to the extreemly hazordous conditions. But they didnt pass any acts until they finally noticed that the population of kids started to die down. The factory act of 1833 and mines act of 1842 were probably the most important laws that were passed during that peiod.
i agree and disagree with bryanna because the luddites were wrong by destroying the machines. In the same sense it was the only way that the people would actually notice that their were people in need of a job. They felt that the machines were replacing those who couldnt find work. I believe that their were peobably alot of people who wanted to do the same but didnt have the courage to.
The working conditions during the Industrial Revolution were very poor. The mines that people and children worked in were unsafe as well as the factories. The Mines Act of 1842 attempted to ensure the safety of children. This act prevented boys under 10 and all children from working underground. This law was passed because few children were healthy and many were in the hospital recieving treatments do to the injuries they recieved while working. This act did indeed help children although it hendered them as well. The only reason children were working was to help suffice the income in their home. However, it did not prevent them from working, only from working underground in mines. Personally I believe this was a good method of protecting their health because many different dangerous things were happening there;walls could collide, explosions could occur, and the air was polluted.
I disagree with Jacqueline Ortega about the Luddites helping create better working conditions. The Luddites did fight against them but they did not say what they wanted to fx in the working field. All they did was break into factories and destroy the machines. They were also not angry about the working conditions they were unhappy and blammed the Industrial Revolution for them not having anywhere to work. However, in some way they did make the factories owners possibly consider fixing some things around the factories.
Michaela Coulburn do you mind explaining exactly what goals the "People's Charter" wanted to accomplish and what goals were actually met? And of those goals that were met how exactly did they improve the working conditions?
Ishani:
There are six reforms or points that wee issued by the Peoples Charter. They include male suffrage, annual election of the House of Commons, the secret ballot, equal electoral districts,and the abolition of property qualifications for and the payment of salaries to members of the House of Commons. These might not have effected the working conditions but they were protested during the Industrial Revolution. They were successful in controlling the city councils in Leeds and Sheffield. Of the six reforms some were passed but later in the years. The secret ballot was enacted in 1872. Observers saw in Chartism the kind of mass movement that workers must eventually adopt if they were to improve their situation.
jrotega:
I think that the Mines Act and the Factory Act are extremely important and not just the Industrial Revolutions impact. The Mines Act had huge impact because of the conditions in the mines underground. Working in the mines was dangerous due to the dangers of drowning, as well as suffocation from poisonous gases. Cave-ins were also possible and people risked lung disease from coal dust. Also, the environment was horrible and polluted with limited space.
The Industrial Revolution irreversibly changed the lives of Europeans, impacting the economy, social order, and domestic life. These effects moved people to protest with political reforms, like the working class and Chartism. Chartism, in order to improve artisans’ social and economic standing, was advocated by the London Working Men’s Association. Founded by William Lovett and others, the London Working Men’s Association wanted to commensurate voting and abrogate certain aspects concerning the House of Commons. The movement’s strikes and petitions failed because the Chartists were unorganized and divided, later being abandoned. Chartism was not a totally unsuccessful though; years late some of their six points were passed by Parliament. Their actions were justifiable, only being intended to improve the working class’s situation.
Domestically, the Industrial Revolution strained family relationships. All members of the family became forced to work, including the children, who worked in very dangerous environments and did not get much of an education. This had not become an issue until the 1830’s, when in 1833 the English Factory Act was passed in order to rectify their childhood. It established an age requirement for working and set an amount of hours they were able to work; it was demanded of factory owners to pay for a few hours of schooling for the child workers. This act was justifiable because the intention was to once again make family a priority, protesting the lack of childhood the children working in factories had. The English Factory Act’s main goal was to limit the work load of children in Britain, and it was successful in doing that. In fact, it was so successful because components of the 1833 Factory Act had made it through hundreds of years to today’s society: the age limits and work hours.
Bryanna :
I agree that the way the Luddites’ way of voicing their opinion was wrong, and that there was a better way to get people to know about their unhappiness with the Industrial Revolution. The damage they inflected onto the factories did not aid their cause, only leading to the destruction of property and later ended with death and exile. The damage done to the machines in turn hurt the Luddites’ fellow working class members since they had the machine’s work to compensate for, putting more work on them at their already low pay. I also agree that a better way to be heard was for the Luddites to take a less radical path.
Michaela:
The Mines Act did make it so that children had to be a certain age before they could go work underground, but the age minimum was ten, not nine. It also prohibited the working of women in the mines. To ensure that the Mines Act was properly followed, parliament also appointed inspectors to look after the conditions in the mines. I agree that it was a form of protest to the conditions formed by the Industrial revolution, and, like the Factory Act, the Mines Act was successful in trying to make the working place safer for children and women. The mining conditions were brutal, and there was always the chance of a mine collapsing and heavy pollution. The Mines act made it so that children were not allowed to work in the mines until they were ready for the workload. Prohibiting women from working in the mines enabled them to spend their time elsewhere, like at their home, raising their children.
As the working class became more educated, they realized how bad they actually had it. They soon began to learn that they had the capability to fight back. They brought forth the Luddites movement. The Luddites broke the frames that caused them so much pain in despite of their employers. The employers began the Frame Breaking Act. The Chartists were the people that wanted the People's Charter reform to go through. This would bring equality to the working class.
I agree with Laura San about the Chartists. The Chartists wanted the reform to go through, but the government wouldn't see it through. They wanted so desperately to have an easier, and better life, but it was difficult to get their rights. They used the sufferages to help themselves propel into a safe place of life.
I agree with Michaela Colburn that the Luddites were much more aggressive. They broke the frames in spite of their bosses. This only made their bosses angrier. This eventually helped the workers by giving the children a fraction of their rights, which included under 10 to not be allowed to work underground.
Two major forms of protest against Industrialist working conditions were chartism, and the bread riots.
Chartism was a movement started by the working class, where in people called for better conditions in the work place, and a more democratic system of government. The main points of change called for by chartists were outlined in the 1838 People's Charter: universal male voting rights; a non-public ballot; annual parliamentary election; salaries for Parliament members, to allow poor men to become members, and equally sized voting bodies. The bread riots were conducted by the artisan class. When merchants, in attempts to gain more profit amongst a society that was dependent on bread as a staple of their diet, raised prices, the people would riot. The artisans would break into stores and steal all the bread, "confiscating it" to sell at more reasonable prices to the people that were deemed "fair."
Laura:
I believe that your opinion on the chartists in that they could have done better to fight isn't exactly a fair judgement. I disagree, I think it's safe to say that their calls for reforms were well made! The publishing of the Northern Star was a big step, as it pushed their ideas and helped spread their message. The fact that the reforms WERE, eventually, passed counts as a strong protest in my eyes.
Amanda:
I agree with you on your opinion on the Factory Act. It was a very morally right decision to pass something and limit child labour to keep young children out of factories. Your statement regarding the proof of its effectiveness is also valid, as in most of Europe, child labour is frowned upon and even made illegal. I would question your use of the Factory Act as a "protest," however; I see it more of an effect of protests, than a protest itself.
Jacob: I agree with how you pointed out that the Chartists were a major group which protested against the Industrial Revolution. Even though the movement didn't get far, their ideas spread. They did challenge the government, however, the violent way they went about to it was wrong. The People's Charter that you mentioned did want the universal male suffrage, a private ballot, annual parliamentary elections, etc, were all movements that the Chartists supported. The Chartists raided factories and burned buildings down to show how they protested.
Chartism was one of the ways people rebelled the Industrial Revolution. They protested by listing the six specific reforms they wanted: universal male suffrage, annual election of the house of commons, secret ballot, equal electoral districts, and abolition of property qualification,also the payment of salaries. It passed eventually, but it was towards the end. Another way of protesting against the horrible child laboring was by establishing The English Act of 1833. This act prevented children under nine to thirteen to work more than ten hours a day. It also required the factory workers to pay for two hours of education for each children. British workers demanded fewer hours for adults so they can spend more time with their children. These protests succeeded and allowed them to gain what they desire. These type of protests also assist them in factories because it gave them less working hours and providing safe working condition for them. The Luddites were also another way of protesting against the Industrial Revolution. Luddites were a group of people made of 19th century artisans that was against this revolution because they couldn't agree with the changes. The Luddites protested by burning factories and destroying different mechanics causing many factories to fall. This was a wrong way of protesting because it didn't help them achieve their goals and also caused troubles for many other people.
Lily Lewis: Going along with the factory act, I believe that this was one of the most effective protesting movement. The factory act assisted the hard working children by limiting their working hours and the age limit for working in a factory providing them more time to rest. The child labor in the mines were the cause of many deaths and other illness, certainly the act have helped them a lot. The factory act was a more sophisticated way of protesting than the Luddites because the Luddites tried protesting against the new machines by destroying them. By taking reckless actions made them look brutal and not to mention the fact that it didn't really help them achieve their goals.
Bryanna Esplana: Adding onto the Luddites, I believe they had a great "physical" impact during the protests. The Luddites were a group of rebellious artisans who went protested viciously, such as destroying machines and factories, to express how they didn't agree with the Industrial Revolution changes. The Luddites believed that the advanced technological developments were negatively affecting the working class. They took these aggressive actions only to protest against the factories because they provided horrible working conditions and were reducing wages.
During the industrial revolution there were many different ideas regarding how to combat the problem of working conditions and wages they recieved. One of the ways the workers tried to fight was by striking. They would not go to work and theoretically, the factory owners would stand to lose profits. Most attempts failed to work because there were so many poor that these empty jobs could be filled promptly, thus negating the effects of the strike. Another tactic employed by more drastic groups was to damage the factories. In some cases people like the luddites and the chartists attempted to defile the property or to burn or otherwise destroy the factories. This was not effective either because the owners could replace whatever was lost. The most effective path was to go through the government which led to acts such as the factory act and the mines act, both of which limited the working hours and put restrictions on who could work as well.
Amanda Marie: I agree with what you said about the laws that limited work like the factory act and the mines act. they were crucial to the well being of the workers and really exemplifiedd their struggle against the industrial revolution and its cruelties.
Duskull, i agreee with you exspecially aboput the importance of the bread riots. The price hike exemplifies the liberal capitalism that was strangling the people of the time. In rioting and selling the bread at their own prices the people were fighting against the all out war that their lives during the industrial revolution had become.
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