Tuesday, November 3, 2009

Blog #4 18th Century Due 11/22


“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.” Assess the validity of this statement by using specific examples from the Enlightenment era.  Remember to respond to the question in 6-8 sentences (yes it can be longer) and to respond to two of your classmates answers in 4-6 sentences. Do not just agree or disagree without defending or justifying your argument.) NOTE: YOU CANNOT SAY "I AGREE WITH JOE AND BOB AND WRITE ONE RESPONSE. IT MUST BE TWO SEPARATE RESPONSES WITH TWO DIFFERENT EXAMPLES TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU SAY. Think above and beyond the common answers that you may see. Be sure to challenge your classmates with controversial tactics, actions or selections. Good Luck!!!! Go Mustangs!!!





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39 comments:

COACH NEAL said...

First 5 this unit get extra-credit.....

Unknown said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.”

I believe that the statement listed above is a very valid one. First of all, in the 18th century, People did turn to new science for a better understanding. For example, Religion became a factor for the people. It brought them both fortune and misfortune. However, when logical ideas began, it brought them a wealth of knowledge, "advancements in agricultural improvement, commercial society,expanding consumption, and the application of innovative rational methods to traditional social and economic practices." As you can see, Science benefited a lot during the 18th century.

As more people begin to accept logical methods, the minds of people becomes more educated. Socially, they begin to look at the world from a different perspective, a more logical way. Superstitious beliefs began to decay away, as logical thinking proves most of them wrong. This also led to the end of the Witch Hunt.

Both economically and socially, the Enlightenment era brought a whole new set of ideas which were hard to institute on a foundation that has been around for more then 400 years. However, as these began to take root within the foundation, the social and economical status of the 18th century began to change a great deal. I still believe that the statement is valid.

Cindy said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.”

I disagree with this statement. While there were scientific advancements and discoveries made in the 18th century, much of it was not applied to everyday issues. For instance, even though scientists were refuting ideas from people such as Aristotle that were widely accepted at the time, the role and stance of women in a pre-dominantly male society was significantly inferior. When it came to the controversy about whether women should have the same rights and if they thought on the same logical level of men, the scientists seem to stop using their newly invented scientific method.
Another instance is the witch hunt craze that raged throughout Europe. If they had applied new science to try and understand this problem that was occurring at this time, they would have realized that many accusations were falsely made and had no scientific proof. Sadly, the revelation to apply science to solve this problem occur too later, after many unjust deaths had occurred.

lizbethhhh said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.”

I believe that a lot of people did actually pay attention more into science so that they could understand how life had been created. Though, when people started to come up with ideas about what is outside the world, the church began to get offended believing that the only thing that people have to rely on is religion.
like an example is Galileo which argued on 1632 for the Copernican notion that the earth rotates on its axis beneath the unmoving sun though the Church objected that the Bible stated that the sun moved through the sky and wanted Galileo to take back all his thoughts and to stop his teachings.

also, in the 18thcentury,knowledge would, conquer fear, superstition, enthusiasm andprejudice.also when it came to the WItch Hunt where there were people executed for being attacked by other people believing that they were manipulated by the devil.it was socially and economically understood because of the things that were happening at the time were then explained about what were believed by the scientists about the world and how it was created and it made the people know on how the world worked by these ideas.

the enlightment was the belief that the scientific method could explain the laws of socitey and brought a new vision of the future which at the end of the eighteenth century there was a reaction against the reason the encountered this materialism without affecting the fundamental objectives.
also those people that were finding the new discoveries in science were not saying that the beliefs in the bible were wrong, they just wanted to discover how everythig outside the world is working.

ceenguyen said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.”

I believe this statement is accurate. Science was being more recognize, not only about how life was made, but also how the everything is living as of right now. It has socially impacted by the knowledge it brought to one and others. and also religion, it helped bring the Catholic Bible into a more prestigious surrounding.

as science came more rational and noticable to others, they used it to see the earth, or planets, or the way we live, in such a different perspective and matter.

not only did it help socially by knowledge, and agriculture, but it helped others understand the method and process that had to go in to just create the view of our world and out society. science could play a great deal economically wise also, as we know the enlightment era of the 18th century is wrapped in a nutshell as the renaissance, and the scientific revolution put together, which made it easier for the economic status to increase, and as social and economic increase, science got more credited after the enlightment era.

Unknown said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.”

This statement seems to be on the right path. During the 18th century people sought out to figure everything out with the tactic of using science. They used science to find improvements from agriculture, social, government, commercial, navigation, and warfare. Because of using logic and reason to solve everyday problems society became more educated as a whole, inventing new ways of doing things, and new inventions to help the process. New inventions came about such as the various ways of agriculture, the steam engine, iron production, the spinning jenny, and many others. People in the 18th began seeing the world more rationally. By seeing more rationally superstitious beliefs vanished, which cause much sanity towards those who were being accused of the witch-hunt. But because of the new perspective the religion in the society began to be more challenged. For example Galileo challenged the church and their geo-centric system with scientific proof of a helio-centric universe. Although the church denied, denied, denied, it inspired people to challenge other things about the church, or the bible.

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I agree with Richard : because the statement is very valid. In a way that during the 18th century it was well documented from scientist, or philosophers, from Galileo, to Newton and from Voltaire, to Montesquieu; that they saw the world to be very rational, and the mysteries of the universe could only be solved by logic and reason.

I disagree with Cindy : because the some women did have some scientific discoveries. Even though the husbands sometimes took credit for it, the women still did turn to science nevertheless. Although they weren’t recognized back then they still used logic and reason, such as Margret Cavendish who made contributions to scientific liturature.

lizbethhhh said...

2 responses:

i agree with ceenguyen because the fact that science was more recognized. science was used to show us how all the universe was created. it made the people see how eveything worked outside the world and made us know that it didnt affect religion and that science was not against on the religion belief but just make us understand the universe better. and that science got more credited after the enlightment era.

i disagree on what cindy had to say about the scientific discoveries not being a better understanding at the time. because at the time women had paid more attention at the important stuff that occured while the men paid attention at things that were not important. some women had also made some discoveries thae same as well though they were not always given the credit to do so. remember that women did not always have the same rights as the men did back then but even though women were treated lesser, they still did take some action on education.

RICO;p2012 said...

The statement "In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day” is definitely valid. New discoveries aided in the economic and social difficulties of the Scientific Revolution.

This may have economically affected parts of Europe because it enabled people to begin their quest in knowledge. People at the time of the Scientific Revolution looked up to new discoveries. Philosophers such as Galileo created new inventions such as the telescope. The discovery of new tangible items aided in people's curiosity and gave them a better understanding of how they evolved in that day. Having new technologies such as these helped parts of Europe become more technologically advanced. Science was taken into great consideration and helped in improvements of agriculture, navigation, warfare and government.

Science may also have affected Europe socially because it put the teachings of the bible into perspective. For example Copernicus introducing his heliocentric view of the universe went against the bible’s teachings that the Earth was the center of the universe. This may have caused many social uprisings amongst the people. They became interested in the ideas of these philosophers and began to question the ways of the Catholic Church.
2 STUDENT RESPONSES:
I agree with Cindy. Although her statement contradicts mine she is truly right. When it came down to everyday life issues science didn’t really come into play. As she explained, when it came to women’s rights in the dominant male society the newly developed method s of the philosophers seemed to fade away. She also makes reference to the witch hunt. The Church was indeed accusing women with no scientific proof. If the new ideas of science brought any good to Europe they should have put it to use in an ethological way.

I also agree with Lizbethhh’s statement. She concludes that people looked to science to understand how they evolved in their time. She refers to Galileo and his firm belief in the Copernicus notion of a heliocentric universe. She also explains in her response that the enlightenment was the belief that the scientific method could explain the laws of society. I personally believe that the scientific method did play a major role at the time of the Scientific Revolution. People relied heavily on these ways. For they did not want to go against what the bible was teaching, but to only perfect and get a better understanding of where they came from.

Anonymous said...

I believe that this statement: "In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.” is very true.

For one many people of the time had begun to think that monarchs were very selfish and therefore looked upon the church for guidance. However, many people turned to science and philosophy to see how they can interpret the world they live in today. Methods and new ideas such as the sun was the center of the universe not the earth and the scientific method demonstrate how accurately science had developed over time. Such teachings as Aristotle’s was probably the most accepted of all. Although many other scientist or should I say philosophers at that time such as Isaac Newton ideas were not as accepted. Some where burned and executed. Isaac Newton on the other hand, made one of the most famous discoveries in history for religion, Deism. This implied that everybody in the universe attracts every other body in the universe in a precise mathematical relationship. As you can see many people could have molded their lives to the studying and the teachings of the science. However the church did not like this idea very much and challenged anyone who believed in these ideas or theories.


I very much agree with lizbeth because she is right “the enlightment was the belief that the scientific method could explain the laws of society. “ For this reason many people turned to science for answers and the church became offended. Thus the reason why the church began to execute the philosophers, but also because they said they were going against the bible. When to them the bible stated that the earth was the center of the universe. Galileo said that they may have misunderstood the bible or interpreted it wrong.

I would have to agree with Cyndi although she had a different opinion. The reason I agree with her is because she is right many woman lived a hard life where men dominated all. Making it difficult for woman to have equal rights. Also especially during the witch hunt because with so much scientific knowledge they could have proven things right or wrong. However they did not do so and there were many mothers and daughters and grandmothers that died because of false accusations.

COACH NEAL said...

Finally, many of you are answering questions with some sound evidence. Nice job first five..Where are your classmates at?

stevenmperkins said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.”

The statement above is invalid based on the underlying premise in enlightenment thought, that "new science" was explored for the sole purpose of furthering the knowledge of new science. Yes, I do agree that understanding and progress of the social and economic problems of the day resulted partially from the advancement of new sciences, but social and economical understanding came along with their new discoveries and theories established in the 18th century. New science was not practiced for economic or social progression, but rather for the sake of furthering their knowledge of science and opening up their minds to a more logical, factual way of thought.

Cindy said...

I agree with Richard on the fact that the new sciences brought a better approach to economic issues and agricultural advances. This was prominent in England when Viscount Charles Townsend improved soil by crop rotation. However, I disagree when Richard said that people became more educated and more logical. I'm sure the majority did have opportunities in education but that did not really improve their mindset. They were still prone to superstition and thus, the people did not turn to the new sciences when it came to social problems.

Jessica Silva said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.”

I agree with this statement that all of society was affected by the new science movements that helped many understand social and economic problems. There were many problems presented in agriculture and industries like time production and droughts. The new science advancements lead to improvements in agriculture, these industries that lead to population growths in the late 18th century.

Farmers were infected by improvements in cultivation during the Agricultural Revolution. This revolution lead to many advancements like enclosures which allowed farmers to close off their land so they would be able to use it more wisely and make more of a profit that would help their economy. Seed drills were invented to help farmers decrease the time it took to plant seeds as a unit. This invention was more effective and more people started to turn towards the idea that science could help the advance.
Town’s people were affected by new inventions in the textile and fabric industries. The spinning Jenny is an example of an invention that lead to other inventions like the Spinning Jenny which tripled the amount of production in less time as the original. Because of inventions like these, people started relying on science to help advance their companies and make more benefits that increased the economy. The steam engine was another scientific invention that allowed the spread of industrialization and was able to complete small tasks like pumping to help build new towns. These inventions alone in the new science era helped solve various agricultural and textile problems that allowed its society to rely and build science to benefit human advancements.

Jessica Silva said...

I disagree with stevenmperkins based on the statements he presents. Yes the scientific knowledge was used for the sole purpose of political change but this type of thinking lead to the science used in fields of agriculture and textile. Both of these though directly correspond to each other and cannot be separated because if there was no theories, there would not be and advancements and inventions. It is the thought process of thinking outside of the box the lead to these advancements and throughout the 18th century the industrial revolution is a perfect example of this thinking. The inductive and deductive methods were used throughout the 18th century proving the connection between the two movements. You argue that new science was not practiced in political or economic thought but that can be contradicted by the thought process it takes to make economic or political movements. Theology and philosophy throughout the centuries always use an inductive, deductive, or scientific method to state their purposes and textile advancements or any inventions use testing and inductive methods with them. Meaning a Spinning Jem will have to produce results and hard facts before used by society. In politics, new science had created inventions that helped the economy and stressed the need for these inventions that were able to be spread by politics and politicians. Everything is connected.

Jessica Silva said...

I agree with lizbethhhh that the new science of the 18th century had impacts on social life. It is obvious that this movement had effects on physical inventions and politics but it is more difficult to prove a social change for the normal or peasant society. I agree that the movement did settle some controversy. Many started to use science and outside like thought so that was defiantly going to help advancements in the field of science. This movement did use inductive and deductive methods in the people either broke down thoughts or built theories based on previous thoughts or observations. As more started to relax their religion, they were able to practice science that in return helped their position economically and socially. Lizabethhh is correct in my opinion when she states that society was not trying to challenge the church but learn about the world more mathematically to help their advancements.

juliafranco said...

"In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day”

I agree with this quote for many different reasons. Solutions to most of the problems were found in the studies of science. Science brought a more logical and reasonable way of thinking not a conclusive and irrational way of thinking. For instance, all the controversy on whether or not the Earth was the center of the solar system was ended because of the newly updated sciences. The newly developed sciences also gave people a better grasp of society. One other example is the Witch Hunts. The ending of the witch hunting was because of the Scientific Revolution. It brought facts and evidence. Which proved that none of the things people accused witches of doing were true. Overall science brought order to thoughts and ideas. There were generally no gray areas when factual science was involved. You were either right or wrong.

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I also agree with Alyssa when she states that it not only politically and socially effects people, but also economically. Her example of the telescope provides good factual evidence. The telescope did help solve major issues dealing within science itself. Discovering the wonders in astronomy was because of the telescope, scientist could only see so much with the naked eye. And economically, the telescope with contribute to people buying and spending. Other scientists want to be a first hand witness with the telescope.

And I also have to disagree with Cindy because like Giullian said women did make significant discoveries. Just because the were mainly and usually inferior didn't mean that they could not make discoveries of there own. Some famous women that had positive contributions to the sciences were Claudine de Tencin who politically helped the philosophes, Marquise de Pompadour who contributed her ideas in the Encuclopedia, and Mary Wollstonecraft.

amandazac'12 said...

New sciences built up the economics of the 18th century, without a doubt. It was a new foundation for a strong system that by this point would continue to expand without unbeleivable measure. The 18th century, or The Enlightenment, prospered for this reason. New agricultural advances and invention of more efficent tools allowed a lot more work to be done in the same span of time, obviously incresing revenue. New scientific tools, books and ideals were being sold to the highest bidder. people thrived to obtain the power of the "latest and greatest" (nobility).

Socially new sciences had greater impacts on the individual. By some scientists like Galileo and Copernicus developing theories untraditonal of the Catholic church, they promoted an individaul's ability to reason and find answers for themselves. Socially this impacted not only men, but women too. During this era, it has been documented more women came out with scientific theories, perhaps they didn not voice them like the men, but they still took matters into their own hands. SOme women even spoke out about matter in which they disagreed. Take for exampe Madame de Geoffren. SHe harshly critisized Diderot's encyclopedia. She did this in new delveoped salons; most women did. You may call it gossip, but I think it is a suure symbol of a woman's ability to think for herself and voice a strong opinion in a politically correct and respectable manner, for thhe time period. Also during this time, philosophers and philosophes greatly impacted society and their ideals. Such as Baron Paul d'Holbach, David Hume, and Rousseau. That iis very few of the many. So as you can see science effected both the economy and society of the 18th century.

amandazac'12 said...

I support Richard. I completely agree that with a new intellectual wave citizens valuaed education more so and they looked at the world through different, educated eyes. ANother thing, which I did not think of was that Richard said with new intellectual ideals it put a stop to witch hunts. Good job Richard! :)

I also agree with Gillian. he mentioned that new sciences affected warfare, navigation, agricultural improvements, social affairs and economic influx. I did not think of science affecting warfare and navigation, but it obviously correlates. Those two things agian brought a stron foundation to European countries. Good job Gillian! :)

aliciamendoza said...

"In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day”

I agree with this quote for many different reasons. The solutions to most of the problems were found in the studies of science. Science brought a more logical way of thinking. By seeing more rationally superstitious beliefs vanished, which cause chaos towards those who were being accused of the witch-hunt, but because of new ideas the religion in the society became challenged constantly. For example Galileo challenged the church and their geo-centric system with proof of a helio-centric universe. All the controversy on whether or not the Earth was the center of the solar system ended because of the discoveries made my scientist. By seeing more rationally, superstitious beliefs vanished. For instance, Witch Hunts. The ending of the witch hunting was because of the Scientific Revolution. It brought facts and evidence and proved that none of the things people accused witches could posably be true.

I disagree when Richard, i dont belived that people became more educated and more logical. I'm sure the majority did have opportunities in education but that didn't really change their thought about the superstitions brought into the time. They were brought up beliving that there were witches, and the sun was in the middle of the universe. The Church encougaged these superstions, influencing people more and more. Because of that, people did not turn to the new sciences when it came to social problems. However, i agree with what he said because many of the scientist used logic and exlinations to discover new ideas and to critisize others.

I agree with Cindy because some women did have some scientific discoveries such as Emile Du Chatelet who translated Newtons principle; Maria Sibylla Merian who studied insects and discoved new species; Margaret Cavendish and Mary Astell who wrote books about philophical debates by scientific works (challenging men): Maria Winkelman Kirsc who studied medicine. Woman had an equal oppotunity on education, but most had to collaborate with their husbands instead of working alone.

yvettem said...

The statement "In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day." Is completely right.
Many people turned to science in the 18th century to help them with problems that were going on during that time period. Science helped them improve agriculture, navigation, and war. Science brought a new way of thinking. People now looked at problems with logic and reason. With the Scientific revolution many new advances were made in navigation and agriculture. Society now was impacted by science. With the ideas of the individual and their reason. This caused an increase in education. Also the Scientific Revolution was one of the reason the witch hunts came to an end. With logic and reason people could see that the women accused of being witches in reality were not.


I agree with juliafranco when she states that the end of the witch hunts was because of the scientific revolution. Since the scientific revolution brought evidence and facts. I also agree with her stating that in science and facts your either right or wrong. Since you use facts and logic to prove what you think.

I also agree with amandazac'12 she states that scientists and philosophers promoted people to use reason and find answers for themselves. I also agree with her stating that the scientific revolution did not only deal with men but also women. I also agree with that fact that she wrote that women talked about science and politics in salons. Since the philosophers and scientists impacted society women would get together to talk about certain subjects.

nartanna said...

I agree with the statement, “In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day".

One of the forerunners of the Enlightenment was John Locke. From his ideas, he influenced Montesquieu. John Locke believed in the government where the citizens have a say in the government, and all have equal rights. Socially, he believed people should be charge of their own destiny and self-improved oneself through life experience. As the Enlightenment continued its influences, the French economic reformers, physiocrats, believed in a beneficial idea. They believed in the primary role of the government was to protect the property and to permit owners to use it freely. The rationalism of the Enlightenment was closely connected to the spirit of improvements of the economic life. Now into the political sense of the philosophes, Montesquieu wrote the "Spirit of the Laws". He essentially believed in a government where their are three branches to protect the citizens. His enlightened ideas help create peace among the different social classes in the government if it was taken to use.

I agree with Richard. From the ideas during the Enlightenment, people did view the world on a different perspective. Some turned away from the strong belief of religion. Religion was questioned during the Enlightenment for numerous of reasons. Some even let go of their religious beliefs. While other believed in it anyways for the sake of fear.

I also agree with lizabethhhh. The new knowledge gained from the Enlightenment did change the issues during the Scientific Revolution. New ideas help defend ideas of scientist in the previous years. Instead of struggling from getting ideas out, ideas where all flourishing the society.

catsayshilynn said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.” I believe that this statement is true. The Scientific Revolution brought new ideas and methods to solve their problems. It gave them a new way of thinking and told the people the real facts of their existence. For example, a social problem was the witch hunts. Many people were getting accused of being a witch and killed for ridiculous reasons. They were able to figure out that people who were different or were able to heal were not witches with their advancements in medicine. People were also able to figure out the underlying problem of situation instead of blaming whoever was involved. Women were also contributing more to society with their scientific ideas. For economic problems, they were able to use science to improve their way of doing agriculture and how Europe interacted with others. The Agriculture Revolution brought new methods that landowners were able to use to improve and increase their production such as the idea of fertilizer. The new science helped improve navigation and warfare. Europe was able to do more trade and defeat others in battles.

I agree with ceenugyen. Science gave people more of an understanding of their existence. People were beginning to see the facts and it lead onto them thinking for themselves. They no longer just listened and took in the information. They questioned more things such as the church and their geocentric theory and had more of a curiosity.

I disagree with Cindy. The Scientific Revolution helped in the decline in the witch hunt. The witch hunt was more of a distraction to what the problem really was. The people believed more into dark magic and the devil, and also just wanted someone to blame for anything horrible that occurred and that was different from the usual. Science was able to bring the evidence that witches were just a myth.

laurenG said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.” I agree with this quote.

Many things that happened during the scientific revolution influenced a new way of thinking for them to solve their everyday problems. An example for the social problems would be Rene Descartes. Unlike others, Rene completely rejected and Scholastic philosophy and relied on his own logic and reason to solve the social problems of his day. And by him inventing deductive reasoning he was able to use this new scientific method for a better understanding of the world and universe around him without the church.
Another factor would be the witch hunts. In order to end the witch hunts a new scientific and logical view had to be taken in to realize that the witches were being falsely accused.
On an economic point of view, the scientific revolution was able to help prosper economically based n new tools for agriculture. Many people were able to think outside the box and develop new methods to improve agriculture which would benefit them in the long run.


I agree with amandazac'12. Copernicus and Galileo did open the idea to other people about being able to logically think for themselves and solve their own problems. And it did also have an impact on women to speak out for tehmselves about they believed in and their views on things.

I also agree with RICO;P2012. The development of new things did technically advance Europe and it was all inspired by earlier people like Galileo. With these new advanced objects Europe was able to handle their economic problems based on inventions like the seed drill, water frame, and steam engine.

briaaana said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.”

I believe this statement is a valid one and I agree with it. My first example is with Religion. Religion was a big factor in the 18th century, the new science made people really compare or contrast things with science and religion. For example, when Galileo had conflict with the Church. When he tried to get his perspective out to the people, the Church kept denying him and sending him back. Even though they always did that, it brought people to think and question the church more. Also Galileo's theory.
The new science in the 18th century brought development in society, mechanical, governments and agriculture. For agriculture, it helped improved inventions for farmers and townspeople. It also increased trading.

I agree with Giullian. It is true about Galileo and how he kept challenging the church. It inspired people to challenge the church. I also agree with Jessica Silva about the new inventions. The new science is what brought people to think more and understand how to develop their society.

Blaise Inman said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.”.I believe this statement is very true in multiple aspects.

First off, I believe that many people who had nothing in life were inspired by scientists such as copernicus to go out and do something positive for the world. Once they saw it was possible and you didn't have to be very famous to become important, they began to make a living through science. Many people who did not discover things were still enthralled when reading books such as the book published just after Copernicus's death. They also found it quite amazing the way it paralled with religion. Little did they know that what many of their religious beliefs were based on was science. When new theories began to be presented, people started to question how true their beliefs really were.

I agree with brianna because she also made a good point on how much religion was affected by the Scientific Revolution. She said that science was compared and contrasted with religion in this time.

I also agree with RICO;p2012
because she said that it put teachings of the bible in perspective. This points back to the fact that religion is one of the main causes of the Scientific Revolution.

joannaisOG said...

The quote “In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day,” is very accurate & valid.

The 18th century was a time period of questioning the validity of the church. It all started with Copernicus coming out with his theory that the sun was the center of the universe, heliocentism. Ever since that theory was established, it caught the attention of many people. Because Copernicus's theory was going against the church with the use of science, he waited till he passed away to publish it, for the church was very strong at the time. After the church was weakened from the reformation, the theory was spread across Europe, people started thinking in a new way. They had many thoughts of the church and it's validity, since science being able to actually provide evidence, and the church having no evidence. WHen Bacon and Descartes came out with the scientific method, the people had a complete 180 view of things. For example, when Galileo used the scientific method & his observations to prove Copernicus's theory with his telescope, he changed the view of the world. When Galileo showed the church his discovery of the moons of JUpiter, the church claimed to have not seen them, even with the evidence. This type of event showed people how stubborn the church was, even with evidence. After this occurance people started to use the new inventions made by scientists to help their everyday life (such as telescopes for exploration and new improvements in medical knowledge). Because of the scientific Revolution, their economic & social disputes were solved. (: In addition to the improvement in everyday life, the new science also helped accelerate the Age of Revolution, and helped lead directly to the Enlightenment.

I definitely agreee with yvettem. We both had similar ideas on how science helped advance agriculture, navigation, and so on.
I also support her when she says that people of the 18th century had used logic and reason to help them with their problems. It was a very different view and method from before the 18th century.

Another person I agreee 100% with is Richard. He brought up the subject of witch hunts and how the acception of logical methods helped put them to an end. I liked how he mentioned the witch hunts, because it was a unique exapmle to help support his stance on the question.

cheyenne b. said...

During the enlightenment era many people did turn to science for their economic and social problems.

I believe this statement is valid because people turned to science to get a better understanding and to see new ideas being distributed. New discoveries during this era helped aid people to get a better understanding. For example, when Galileo invented the telescope, it let people know more about the earth and the planets and became curious wanting to know more about his theory.

The 18th century also brought many economic parts of the era. With the new advances in agriculture and science, many people began to grow more crops nd cultivate their land more efficiently. For example, when english landlords began to invent things such as seed drills and the steam engine, this helped science advance and allowed society to benefit from these advancements.

I agree with briaana because religion did play a big part during the era. She used Galileo as an example because he had conflict with the church for trying to prove Copernicus's theory.

I also agree with richard when he says that the minds of poeple became more educated. When scientists began to speak out against the church, people looked at their ideas in another perspective and used logical reason.

purplegirl said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.”



I beleive the satement above is a true in a positive conotation. People looked at for the new science revolution as a beneficiery. Also many questions were asked against the church that kinda sparked up the scientific revolution. In a religious point of veiw of the scientific revolution, the Roman Catholic church weren't real big suppoters of the new science. Many beleived the new science was blasphemy to the church yet though, some theories by scientists were true. Even though the church sought out that some new science theories were true, that went against the church's teachings they still denied that is true, just to make the the Roman Catholic church look acurate in their teachings and to avoid people seperating from the church of the new findings.

Tiffany.t said...

I think that the statement “In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.” is very accurate. The impact of science on the modern world is immeasurable. The new science helped people to better understand the social and economical problems. People looked to the advances in science and agriculture to come up with a solution to the poor farming methods. Before, farmers used a method known as the open field system. With this system there was a lack of chemical fertilizers and ignorance about nitrogen fixing crops, such as beans and certain grasses. With the new sciences came the enclosure movement where more fertilizers were used as well as nitrogen fixing crops that helped the soil remain more fertile. This was not only beneficial to the economy but to the society as well because it meant that more food could be produced and so food shortages were less likely to occur.
Also, the 18th century saw an end to the witch hunts. This was partially due to the emergence of a more scientific point of view. People started to see the difference between mind and matter and how out of hand the witch hunts had gotten. Those are just a few of the many reasons people turned to science for a better understanding of the problems of that time.

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I strongly agree with what amandazac’12 had to say about society, women and the new science. It definitely had a greater impact on the individual in the sense that the new sciences promoted the individual ability to reason and find answers for themselves. For example, Jean Jacques Rousseau argued that the goal of the individual was to attain full expression of natural instincts and to return as far to nature as possible. He also argued that even children needed to be understood as individuals. The women of this time period also took on a distinctive role. They came out with their own ideas and theories and discussed them in the salons.

I also disagree with Cindy because women were an important part of the new scientific discoveries. Women were inferior to the men of the scientific world just as they had been in every other aspect of life at that time. They did manage to engage in scientific activity but they could only do so through their husbands (for the most part). Just look at Margret Cavendish. She made many contributions to science through her literature and was one of the most accomplished women associated with the new science.

purplegirl said...

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I positivley agree with brianna.... during the scientific revolution religion was an im portant standpoint. The example Brianna used on Galileo was very valid. Galileo tried to prove Copernicuss's theory on the universe being heliocentric, but the church denied that theory to protect their own false teachings on how the world was geocentric.




I disagree with Cidny on how the new science didn't help people in their everyday lives and on how scientist rarely use the scientific method. The new science in the scientific revolution helped everyday people in many ways for example new medicines were developed by scientist to cure sicknesses. And also the schientific method was used rapidly for new theories and discoveries. The scientific method is even still used today in experiments for new discoveries.

Gbogo Adebayo-Ige said...

The statement "In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day" is valid.

Such former aspects such as witchcraft and other forms of superstition were dying while science and reasoning increased at the time. This caused many people to turn to the understanding of what scientists such as Sir Isaac Newton, and Galileo did. One result was the Enlightenment, which resulted from the Scientific Revolution. This also caused people to open up their eyes to what was the norm, such as the knowledge of the heliocentric system. Also, people such as Voltaire, etc. used these ideas to form their own ideas about their own beliefs. As I have said, the original statement is valid.

Stacie Ann said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.” I believe this statement is true. The scientific revolution was the era of scientific thought in Europe when careful observation of the natural world was made, and accepted beliefs were questioned by many. Solutions of many problems were found in the studies of science rather than the beliefs of the church. For example, when Galileo invented the telescope, many people began to learn more about the planets and their arrangements in the universe. Through his telescope and scientific evidence Galileo tried to prove to the church that Copernicus's theory of a heliocentric universe was true, but the church still refused to accept their beliefs. This and other conflicts opened the eyes of many people to question the validity of the church. Many started to question that if scientists that had hard evidence behind their theories were being denied by the church, then some church beliefs must not be correct like the geocentric theory. They began to think more rationally and logically as opposed to irrational and superstitious beliefs. Also the new scientific inventions helped the advancement in agriculture. Inventions such as the spinning jenny and steam engines helped improve daily life.

I agree with catsayshilynn. I agree that there were many people getting killed because they were accused of being witches. They were able to figure out the underlying problem of the witch hunts rather than blaming people because they were different. with the advancements in medicine they also were able to figure out that people who were able to heal were not witches.

I also agree with amandazac'12. Women did talked about science and politics in their salons and with their husbands. Some women did make scientific discoveries even though they were not given credit. They were still able to voice their opinions and believed in their own ideas.

Gbogo Adebayo-Ige said...

I agree with stacieann on the fact that the scientific revolution opened many eyes to question the validity of the Catholic Church. Although Galileo proved Copernicus's heliocentric model through amounts of experiments, the arrogance of the Church blinded them to refute these theories.

I also agree with amandazac'12 on how the Scientific Revolution impacted people socially. Men like Galileo and Kepler caused many people to realize they can prove the order of the natural through reason and common sense and not superstition. This resulted in the emergence of many Enlightenment thinkers such as Voltaire, John Locke, Sir Isaac Newton, etc.

Ian Taylor said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day."

This statement is a true one. The main aim of the Enlightenment was for social reform. To find this reform, man needed a new scientific method that would remake society. People started to abandon metaphysics, which is a philosophy that deals with the being and non-being, and replaced it with epistemology. This is the study of knowledge. Also, the scientific study of nature said the man and society could be the study of scientific study.

I agree with what Jessica Silva said about the economic and social problems. A big problem in reshaping Europe was absolutist kings and dogmatic chruches. Their main values were authority, tradition, and community, but these values were later influences by indiviidualism. These values were freedom and change. The monarchy also weakened into almost nothing but "a shadow of its former self."

I also agree with Briaaana said about religion being a big factor during the 18th Century. Galileo did have troubles with the church. His theories were always rejected. Soon, the church made him stop his experiments and put hi in jail.

sharonnxx said...

“In the 18th century, people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic problems of the day.” I believe this statement is very true. In the eighteenth century there was a period of time called the scientific revolution, which was an era of drastic changes in the European approach to science. During this time, people abandoned the medieval ways of life and started to think of new methods offered by newton, galileo, Copernicus, etc. They questioned church teachings and the geocentric view. While Bahre stated that the planets and the sun revolved around the earth, copernicus and galileo said that the earth and the other planets revolve around the sun. Galileo was able to prove to himself that the the sun is the center of the universe by inventing a telescope to observe the planets. Isaac newton, a philosopher, established the three laws of motion and the law of universal gravitation. the scientific revolution helped understand more of the universe and its forces.

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i agree with tiffany.t that the scientific revolution benefited agriculture by making new ways of methods to improve growing crops. Better farming methods would improve people's health and diet and eventually have a population growth. this would help the economy because there would be less famine and sickness for people. mMore food for the people would result in more population and the outcome would be more money for the country.

i also agree with richard, when he said as more people begin to accept logical methods, the minds of people become more educated. since people were being exposed of many philosophers new ideas and methods, they began to gain more knowledge of science and nature. For example, galileo openly questioned the church because he opposed the church of teaching the geocentric view of the universe. Even though they did not accept his idea, the heliocentric view, other philosophers would look upon this idea and prove that the earth really revolves around the sun.

ceenguyen said...

in addition to what i said in the previous blog:
i agree with richard because he did mention that the people minds were getting more opened, and absorbing a lot of amounts of knowledge. being open minded to all the different philosophers brought much agriculture, socially, and economically.

i also come to agree with sharonxx i believed that Galileo opposing the church was the
reason why many people were getting questions about the church, and they're knowledge grew a lot about the geocentric and heliocentric, and how it orbited the planets.

dijah=) said...

"In the 18th century,people turned to the new science for a better understanding of the social and economic day."

I agree with this statement because science made people compare and contrast the biblical interpretations and the theories of scientist.For example Galileo discovered that their were moons around jupitar and saturn and was one of the first people to use a telescope.Eventhough Galileo's theory of the sun being the center of the universe was rejected multiple times by the church and he was sentenced to house arrest for it ,it still got people questioning the catholic church and wondering if the earth really wasn't the center of the universe.Also the new science brought development to agriculture.It brought development to agriculture by creating machinery that farmers used and were more sucessful with.Also by experimenting with different soils,plants,etc.It also had a impact on the military.During wars the military turned to the scientist for new inventions.The royal society was also big and educated more people about science and got people thinking more logical.

dijah=) said...

I strongly agree with Richard when he says "they begin to look at the world from a diffrent perspective.I believe in this statement because most of Europe was looking from the church perspective.By scientist making new discoveries and having evidence to go along with it it had people questioning the church.When people realized that the sun wasn't the center of the universe and all the planets revolved around the sun they would realize that if the church lied about that what else have they lied about so it also probaly pulled away people from the church and or got people reading the bible on their own.

dijah=) said...

I agree with cindy about the whitch hunt craze.If the scientist tried to find a way to prove that witch craft was indeed real or fake they wouldv'e realized along time ago.As many people wouldn't have been accused ecpecially women like midwives that had "magical powers".